How do you feel about people giving advice on web sites?

　　记者：你如何看待网路上给别人提建议的人们?

　　You mean the actual people who know what they are talking about or just people who like to give advice. Well, you know, some of the people say that on the boards, this is an opinion board, and they are entitled to their opinion. It's just seems that some people like to bring other people down, to bring them down. You can give an opinion and be tactful, or you can be a total ass and just rip someone. Sometimes it is hard to get a compliment. You can be doing really well, and you come in really bad one show, and they trash on him. Sure, sometimes you deserve some of it, but what I hate most is the rumors, like when people come out and say that Sonny Schmidt died because of the steroids. Give me a break. Sonny smoked, it's like lung cancer. Million of people get lung cancer, but if you are in this sport, then everything is drug related. I remember once when I was training at Gold's Venice, and I was feeling under the weather, I had the flu, and someone asked a friend where's Lee. He said, he's not feeling well, he is sick today, and the guy said 'That's because of the drugs'. We bodybuilders are still human, we still get sick.

　　李：你是指那些确实有真知灼见的人还是只是喜欢提建议的人。你知道，有些人在论坛上说，这是个提意见的地方，他们有权利提建议。看上去有些人只是喜欢贬低别人，打击别人。你可以给出建议并且表现得体，你也可以损别人。有时候很难得到一句?扬的话。你可能做的非常好，你一次比赛打得非常差，人们就会把你贬得一钱不值。诚然，有时候你也应该接受批评，但我最讨厌谣言。比如当人们出来说Sonny Schmidt死于类固醇。听我说一句，Sonny吸菸，那是肺癌。很多人得肺癌，但是如果你从事这项运动，所有的事情就都会和药物联?在一起。我记得有一次我在威尼斯(洛杉矶的肌肉海滩所在地)的金健身房训练，我感到状态不好，我得了流感。有个人问他的朋友李在哪?，他说，他不太舒服，他今天病了，那个人就说「那是因为药物」。我们健美运动员也是人，我们也会生病的。

　　I will say it again. I have had a lot of letter and emails from people. People who I speak to at contests, and amateurs, who come up to me and they give me their drug cycles, and I again am saying it, every time I see their drug cycles, it is more than what I have ever taken, it is more than what Paul Dillett took. I lived with Paul for a while, and I heard the rumors of what Paul was taking, and when I saw what he used, it wasn't even half of what people think. I think there is a rumor out there that because this guys supposedly takes these drugs, he looks like that, and if I can take that much drugs, I can look like him. The sad thing is that half of these amateurs are taking way more than the pros will ever take. So if you don't have it genetically, mentally, physically, sure the drugs will be a part of it, but if you don't have the whole aspect of it, your lifestyle, training, eating, resting, everything else - then take all the drugs you want because I am sure that there are people out there on the bulletin boards who like to badmouth people and use drugs, and look like crap. Everything is centered around drugs, drugs, drugs. Every other sport uses them but we get labled the most and if anything happens to someone in the sport, it is the drugs. Give me a break. Even when they talk about Flex Wheeler, some say that maybe the drugs helped bring that on to him. You know, maybe the drugs helped him by slowing it down.

　　我要再说一遍，我收到很多信件和电子邮件。来自那些和我在比赛上说过话的人，还有爱好者，他们找到我然后给我看他们的药物cycle，我再说一遍，每次我看见他们的药物cycle，我从来没用过那么大的剂量，那比Paul Dillett用的还多。我和Paul生活过一段时间，我听过他使用药物的谣言，当我看到他所用得药物时，甚至不及人们说的一半多。我想这些谣言之所以存在是因为人们想当然地认为这些?伙应该用这么多药，他看上去像用了很多药，如果我可以使用这么多的药，我也能像他一样。悲哀的是一半爱好者用得剂量比职业选手用过的最大剂量还大。如果你没有基因条件，精神条件，身体条件，当然可以借助药物的作用，但是如果你没有完整的投入，你的生活方式，训练，饮食，休息，等等，那么想用什么药用什么药去吧——我相信论坛上很多人喜欢骂完了别人然后自己用药——然后看起来像垃圾。所有的讨论都以药物为中心，除了药物还是药物。所有的体育项目都用药物，但是我们被扣上用药用得最多的帽子，而且如果碰巧这个圈子?的某个人出了什么事，那就是因为药物。听我说一句。即使在谈论 Flex Wheeler的时候， 有些人说可能是药物使他落得这个下场。你应该明白，也许药物减缓了他的病情。

　　I had a friend in Australia, he was a nice guy, he ended up dying from AIDS. He would use a little bit of Deca and Growth Hormones to stay in shape and whatever. When he went to the doctor and found out he had AIDS, the doctor told him that because he had used those drugs, and he didn't know he had the disease, it added like seven years to his life. Many steroids are prescribed. And when they are given the right amounts, they are fine. You can abuse anything, and get side effects. You can abuse aspirin, you can abuse any prescription drug, and have all the problems in the world. If you use it correctly, you won't have the problems. It's just the abuse. People think 200 works good, 400 works twice as good, hey I'll get 600, it will work 3 times as good. They keep doing it and doing it until their body can't take it anymore. There's usually more to it than just drugs.

　　我在澳大利亚有一个朋友，他人很好，他死于艾滋病。他用了一点Deca和生长激素来保持状态或者其他。当他去看医生时发现自己得了爱滋病，医生告诉他是因为他用了那些药物所以没有发现自己得了病，药物使他生命延长了七年。许多类固醇是开处方开出来的，当他们使用正确的剂量时，他们没事。你可以过量服用任何东西，都会有副作用。你可以滥用阿司匹林，你可以滥用任何处方，产生世界上所有的副作用。如果你正确地使用，你就不会有问题。只是因为用得过量。人们认为200毫克效果不错，400毫克效果效果会好两倍，嘿，那我就用600毫克，那效果会好叁倍。他们持续这样做，不停地这样做，直到身体无法承受。通常有更多的非药物的因素。

　　Some bodybuilders have said that they overdosed on Advil or aspirin? What do you think?

　　记者：一些健美运动员说他们Advil或aspirin服用过量?你有什么看法?

　　Anything is possible. If somebody tells you something, I guess we can take them at their word for it. Sure, we can sit there and say 'Well, it's bullshit, he did these things, his problems are because of his drug use', but we don't know that. We don't have proof. Who are we to say? It's just all speculation. Because it makes your ego feel better than you can put him down for that. People like to tear people down instead of just saying if that's what he says, then that is what it is.

　　李：任何事情都是可能的。如果有人告诉你什么事情，我想我们可以相信他说的是真的。当然我们可以坐在那?说，「狗屎，他做了那些事情，他的问题是因为用药」，但是我们不?解情况。我们没有证据。都只是猜测罢了。因为打击他会让你自己感觉更好。人们喜欢打击别人，而不是分析别人说的是不是真的。

　　I have always told the truth about the amounts of drugs I've taken. People have come back in my face, laughed at me, and called me a liar. Listen, I've got no reason to lie. These are the amounts I taking, and this is what I am taking. I don't give a shit if you know. I have always been honest about it from day one. I did some Tom Platz videos, they didn't cover my face up, I didn't give a shit if people see who I am, and know what I do. If you are going to take steroids, then do it safely. You don't need to take these stupid amounts that people say to take. I don't think I've ever spent over $1,500 once for drugs for a contest.

　　我经常一五一十地告诉别人我用药的剂量。人们反过来笑我，说我是个骗子。听好了，我没有任何理由去撒谎。这就是我用的剂量，这就是我现在用的药。你知道与否我根本不屑一顾。我从第一天开始就对这个问题很坦诚。我参与拍摄一些Tom Platz的视频，也没有让他们在视频?把我的脸遮住。我根本不在意人们看到我是谁，知道我做什么。如果你要使用类固醇，那就安全地用。你不需要服用别人说的那么愚蠢的大剂量。我从没有为比赛花过多于1500美圆在药物上。

　　But some bodybuilders have said they spent between $5,000 - $7,000 for a show?

　　记者：但有些健美运动员说他们花5000到7000美圆来?备比赛。

　　When I get ready for a show, I spend more money on steak and fish and other foods than I do on drugs. And then when it comes to preparation, I spend more on tanning, and getting stuff ready for the contest than you think. If I diet for 12 weeks, I spend a lot more on foods than drugs easily. The emphasis on drugs always makes me laugh. If a take 1,000 mg of this or 30cc of that, I will tell you. There are no secrets. I don't care if you know. Sometimes the rumors are more exciting than the truth.

　　李：当我决定打比赛时，我花在牛肉和鱼肉上的钱比我花在药物上的钱多。在备赛期间，我花在晒黑，和?备其他东西上的钱比你想的要多。如果我节食12 周，我花在食物上的钱很容易比药物多很多。只拿药物说事的言论常常让我发笑。如果我用了1000毫克这个或者30cc那个我肯定会告诉你。没有任何不能说的秘密。我不介意让你知道。有时候谣言比真相更让人兴奋。

　　So what are you taking for contest preperation?

　　记者：既然如此，你现在备赛在服用什么?

　　Clenbuterol, Stanozolol every second day and Nolvadex. And that's it. It is the same thing I used back in 1997, and you can verify that with Flex Wheeler. Flex at that time was asking me how did I get in shape and I told him that this is all that I used, and it worked. I have got ready for other shows with other things, I've used growth before, but when I used it, I didn't notice a big difference. I think it is a waste of time, as I am not better when I used it as to when I didn't use it. Like I said, you can use drugs, and get prescription steroids, and use too many, and one is going to contradict another. It's better to just do the basics. I remember Cathy came to the bathroom one day, and I showed her what I was using, and she said 'I know women that use more than you do'.

　　李：Clenbuterol,Stanozolol 两天一次，还有Nolvadex。就这些。跟我在1997年用的一样，你可以找来Flex Wheeler来证实。Flex那时候问我如何进入状态，我告诉他那就是我用的所有的药，并且产生了效果。我打其他比赛的时候用过别的东西，我以前用过生长激素，但我用它的时候，我没感觉到很大的不同。我觉得那是浪费时间，因为我用它的时候并没有比不用的时候好。像我所说，你可以用很多药物，得到处方类固醇，勐用，然后一种药会抵消另一种药的作用。最好只用基本的。我记得Cathy一天到我的洗手间，我给她看我用的药，她说「我知道有些女的用得都比你多」。